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PostPosted:Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:25 am 
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My late father was violently prejudiced. He detested any shirt with an open collar, insisting on a button-down collar at all times. The only exceptions he made were for tux shirts and fishing shirts, and if he could have gotten away with a button-down on the former he would have.

Open collars, he explained, were only fit for "crooners and lounge lizards."

For years I adhered to my father's views, even as I rejected his opinions on other matters, such as the saxophone, broccoli and drinking in the morning.

But as I near age 60, I have come around to open collars for sport shirts.

It's been a gradual process, largely confined to the LL Bean canvas shirt. (The shirts are now referred to as "lakewashed." I doubt the veracity of this description, although the image of LL Bean workers trooping down to the nearest lake or pond with armfuls of shirts is pleasing.)

The other frequent use of open collars has been fishing shirts, ranging from somewhat expensive bush shirts made by Filson and Orvis to high-tech synthetic shirts made by a bunch of outfits.

Over the years I occasionally picked up a vintage shirt here and there, usually a wool/cotton mix like Viyella, and these usually had open collars (and dual chest pockets, the other distinguishing feature). I gradually came to like them more than their button-down counterparts.

My feeling now is: If you're going to go casual, go for it.

This is an inversion of the Flusser hierarchy of degrees of dressiness, of course. But that applies to, well, dress shirts. Not something you wear in a canoe.

Which is a long way of getting to the LL Bean shirts I just received:

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The red plaid is "slightly fitted," which I worried about, needlessly. The XL is plenty roomy.

The greyish one is lighter and in the traditional (that is, voluminous) fit

And I include the lakewashed canvas for reference.

The one scenario in which I defer to the buttondown sport shirt is for use under a sweater. I do not like collar points outside the sweater. (Or jacket for that matter.) To me it looks too 1950s undergraduate (on a good day) or low-level Mafioso (on a bad day).

https://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/123600? ... tory&csp=a

https://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/123794? ... tory&csp=a


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 Post subject:Re: Open collar sport shirts
PostPosted:Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:58 am 
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I just can't bring myself to do it, although I'm more open to them than I have ever been. Eek. Really though, I just feel a bit off even when I wear a point collar with a tie.


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 Post subject:Re: Open collar sport shirts
PostPosted:Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:38 pm 
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Concept endorsed by none other than David Mercer in an email exchange many years ago


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 Post subject:Re: Open collar sport shirts
PostPosted:Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:45 pm 
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I do it sometimes, especially in actual "sporting" situations (e.g., fishing, hunting, etc.)

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 Post subject:Re: Open collar sport shirts
PostPosted:Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:43 pm 
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LL Bean open collar in the wild last September, when there was still hope for the NY Jets.

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I'm much skinnier now. Better haircut too. I look like Prince Valiant in this one.

This is the shirt:

https://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/68855?p ... bottom.pdp


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 Post subject:Re: Open collar sport shirts
PostPosted:Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:16 pm 
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Patrick wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:43 pm
I thrifted one of those once. Sold it when we moved and I downsized my closet. Still regret it.

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 Post subject:Re: Open collar sport shirts
PostPosted:Sat May 15, 2021 8:01 am 
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LL Bean has this shirt, which is a little lighter than the canvas one and does not have flaps on the pockets. Since I often use these shirts for fishing I am of two minds about that. On the one hand, the flap gets in the way. On the other hand, without the flap things fall out. So if I really don't want to lose something carry it somewhere else, right?

I also appreciate the lack of shoulder strap/epaulets, which are frequently found on "safari" shirts. I always feel like I'm in line for a field promotion.


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 Post subject:Re: Open collar sport shirts
PostPosted:Sun May 16, 2021 7:25 am 
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 Post subject:Re: Open collar sport shirts
PostPosted:Sun May 16, 2021 9:02 am 
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Looks good. "BeanFlex" (1% spandex). And shorter in the body. And yet, inexplicably, more expensive than the canvas one.

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 Post subject:Re: Open collar sport shirts
PostPosted:Mon May 17, 2021 6:19 pm 
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Spandex must be expensive. Imagine if it was 5%!


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