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 Post subject: In praise of chinos
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:01 am 
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I wear chinos, usually in a khaki color, about 90 percent of the time.

Why?

Versatility:

Chinos are cool in the warm weather. (I don't know how people wear jeans when it's 90 degrees. Ugh.) Lined chinos, or chinos plus long underwear, work well in the cold weather.

Versatility part 2:

In their khaki form, chinos go with just about anything. A quick touch of the iron, and they are dressy. Ignore the iron, and they are pleasantly rumpled. You can also get them muddy without fearing for your investment.

Longevity, or getting the maximum bang for the buck:

My chinos start out nice, with a crease. Depending on circs., they gradually work their way into the "pleasantly rumpled" category. ("Pleasantly rumpled" is the fat part of this particular bell curve.)

Then it happens. The spaghetti in the lap. The unexpectedly soft river bank. The wet, muddy dog.

The final stage, two standard deviations away from the crisp original, I call "fish pants." (Also known as gardening pants, oil-changing pants, post-hole digging pants.)

I have fish pants that are almost 20 years old. Remember those JC Penney chinos? I still have some of those, which I prudently bought in both size 36 and 38, which at $12 per was possible.

(Boy did JC Penney miss the boat on those. If they brought them back -- hearty twill, on-seam front pockets, alterable waist -- they could call them Sustainable Artisanal Heritage Chinos and charge big bucks.)

So let's hear it for the humble chino.


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 Post subject: Re: In praise of chinos
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:02 pm 
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Patrick, total agreement here. Versatility, longevity, and the ability to go from first tier gear all the way down to tier "Holy crap I need to throw these out...next year."

The history of chinos, and their enduring functionality, are obviously and justifiably legendary.

Slight adjustments made over the years (my favorite being a judicious application of taper-- conceived mid-century) combined with certain perennial and immutable details (sufficient rise, flat front-- vintage WWII) definitely make them foundational.




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 Post subject: Re: In praise of chinos
PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:04 pm 
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I forgot to add one more to Patrick's attributes of the chino:

Respectability. They look so much more adult than the sweatpant/pajama thing that guys wear, or the low rise skinny trouser epidemic. WTH. :?


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 Post subject: Re: In praise of chinos
PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:44 pm 
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I agree with your thoughts on chinos as well. I am down in Texas and even in September it is still upper 90s. Jeans wear too warm and are not as comfortable. I have are large stable of chinos in various shades of khaki and differing fabric and age. Older ones don’t get worn to office or sometimes not even worn in public.


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 Post subject: Re: In praise of chinos
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:22 pm 
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I keep coming back to the Orvis Ultimate. Good grief these things wear like iron. If you grab them promptly out of the dryer you can pretty much add a crease by hand.

I spilled chocolate sauce on a khaki pair, thought "OK, those are going to be the priciest fish pants around." Not at all. A timely application of Shout undoubtedly helped, but this is One Tough Trouser.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:59 pm 
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Tough to find a khaki with on-seam pockets these days. How do those Orvis Ultimate Khakis fit? True to size, or is there some vanity sizing involved?

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 Post subject: Re: In praise of chinos
PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:26 am 
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In general Orvis caters to the well-upholstered sportsman. But the waist on my 38s is indeed 19 inches plus a teeny bit, maybe 1/8 inch.

And while we're at it:

Rise 11 3/4
Pants width at knee: 11 1/8
Pants width at hem: 9 1/8

Locker loop. On seam pockets.Actual waistband. Not alterable, however.

They will cuff or hem to the quarter inch. I don't advise getting cuffs from them. Their cuffs are wimpy, an inch and a bit.


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