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PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 11:22 am 
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I was wondering if our members had strong feelings on alternative styles of penny loafers – going beyond the classic Weejun-ian handsewn and the LHS/Patriot style. I'm looking for a welted loafer, I think, and I'm leaning towards burgundy calf.

The two I'm interested in are the low-vamp full strap (as made by Alden or AE), – in black, it seems to be the choice of the quasi-trad (basically, shops at BB) New York businessman.

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I like them, but they strike me as a bit on the dressy side: are they a bit sleek for wearing without a tie or a sportcoat, in your opinion?

The other style I'm curious about is the JM Weston style, with high vamp, chunky toebox, and split toe:

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That seems like it wouldn't dress up too far, but I'm not as concerned about that. But is it too distinctive? And does buying the Meermin version seem a bit inauthentic (since the style is so heavily associated with a particular maker?)

Of course, I'd love to hear alternative options, as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative penny loafers?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:20 pm 
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I like #1, and would probably wear them. They're definitely a bit on the dressy side. #2 and #3 seem too fashion-forward, more of an homage to the penny loafer than the "real deal," rather like a pair of low-rise khakis. They also strike me as neither dressy nor casual, which would make them harder to wear.

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative penny loafers?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:34 pm 
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If you cover the split toe on the second option, they look fine. Our percipient group here would instantly see them as having been stylized, but most others would see a nice shoe. But for me with the split toe? No go. Way too many other fish in the sea, shoe-wise. And I like split toes where they belong.

#1 are certainly classic, but I can't wear the low vamp/Randolph/LHS-type, because having a wide forefoot and narrow heel, they ride like a flip flop on me.

My penny loafer alternatives, or more correctly, variations? I like the AE Presidio, for example, which is just a touch sleeker and a step up from a rounder or boxier toe.


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative penny loafers?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:41 pm 
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Topsider wrote:
I like #1, and would probably wear them. They're definitely a bit on the dressy side. #2 and #3 seem too fashion-forward, more of an homage to the penny loafer than the "real deal," rather like a pair of low-rise khakis. They also strike me as neither dressy nor casual, which would make them harder to wear.
Thanks! I think the weird position they occupy in terms of formality is part of why I'm interested in them, but it might be that I'm just into them because they're interesting.
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If you cover the split toe on the second option, they look fine. Our percipient group here would instantly see them as having been stylized, but most others would see a nice shoe. But for me with the split toe? No go. Way too many other fish in the sea, shoe-wise. And I like split toes where they belong.

My penny loafer alternatives, or more correctly, variations? I like the AE Presidio, for example, which is just a touch sleeker and a step up from a rounder or boxier toe.
Fair enough on the split toe. My least favorite part of the style – the advantage of the Weston is that it's a little less obtrusive than it is on the Meermin.

I hadn't thought of the Presidio. I've read bad reviews of the fit on styleforum, but a lot of the people on there can get a good fit in the AE 5 last, which means their feet may just be diametrically opposed to mine.

I kinda like this C&J style, which to my eye is almost midway between the Weston and the Presidio:

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative penny loafers?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:32 pm 
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I have the BB/Alden version of #1 and they are my favorite pair of shoes. I will wear them with suits, dressy trousers, cords, seersucker, and even pressed khakis to the office. They don't seem to look quite right to me paired with unpressed khakis and I will opt for Weejun style loafers or bucks for those occasions.

Personally, I am not a fan of option #2.


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative penny loafers?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 12:45 pm 
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Of the pictured options in the initial post, I like option three.

I don't really like extended shaped lasts, or extra ornamentation on a simple shoe like a penny loafer. Something about the pointy shape and the full strap doesn't work for me, nor does the split toe on the other.

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 Post subject: Re: Alternative penny loafers?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:37 pm 
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The JM Weston 180 is fantastic (and I might even be persuaded to call it "trad"), but I'm not sure if the Meermin are a good enough facsimile. It's hard to tell, though, without better pictures.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the Alden full-strap; the vamp is just too low, IMO.


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative penny loafers?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:52 am 
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This is how this particular cookie crumbled, thanks to eBay:

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Blake-stitched, but on a dainite sole, and with a nice balance between clunkiness and classicism. I'm happy.


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative penny loafers?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:39 am 
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I like them. I'd wear them, easily.


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative penny loafers?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:12 pm 
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^Agreed. Very nice, YRR.


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 Post subject: Re: Alternative penny loafers?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:01 pm 
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Ensiferous wrote:
^Agreed. Very nice, YRR.
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I like them. I'd wear them, easily.
Thanks! They scratched the itch, though of course we ended up with the wrong weather for them.

And I filled the "calf shoe for sportcoats" niche with an interesting pair of Peal half-brogue single monks in a trade on another forum. With a little luck, they'll work well.


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